One can meet all the family members in the family album, in the family album.
One can go back with memory, in one's memory.
However, let me tell you this and mark my words.
All the fictitious paradoxes of physics has their foundation in a sever deformity in the conception of time.
The complexity of the issue prevented the majority of scientific brains (Including Lorentz and Einstein) from taking their time (pun intended) to investigate what time is.
The equations of SR and GR apply an inherent Minkowski-Lorentzean error that causes results that seem to be indicative of the possibility of moving time backwards rather than monitoring histories and memories.
It is obviously a relativistic problem.
Does the past travel to the present moment to hit our observatory senses, or does our senses travel to the past!
The first option is evident in light arriving from distant stars, the second option is not a physical sense travel but an information being preserved from the past is being revisited in the present. _________________ Hemetis
I have to admit I prefer the many worlds theory and I think my "soul" could very well be the glue that connects all the worlds together, a string, a cord that crosses all of them, and creates weird feelings of interactions with your past and future, like deja-vous or premonitions.
There is a peculiarity about reality and how so easy it could be fantasized.
Only by looking at the stars, we came to understand that the finite speed of light infers that we must be watching many images each originating at a different moment in the past catching up with each other and representing themselves concurrently by impacting with our consciousness. Unfortunately, SR and GR that Einstein formulated, are particularly "Light Relativities" concerned with the information carried by electromagnetic waves' propagation and not with locally stationary material's history. Even a photographic picture is a memory founded on information mediated by light. Even memories inside our brains are wave-functions.
That is why the past memorised information within any natural representation must be founded on waves in the broadest sense, and without waves there is no past being represented now to any consciousness.
The wanting idea of travelling faster than light to catch-up with the past is obviously catching up with light and not catching up with the source of light, which would be a time-fast-forward rather than a time-fast-rewind idea.
The concept of multiple "worlds" is founded on Minkowski's world-lines which represent multiple spatial histories at once, just like taking a picture of the sky by night. There are no fantasy-hidden-dimensions of hell and heaven as evolved through mythology. _________________ Hemetis
Time travel is quite meaningless IMO. It has to do with the definition of the second. What the defintion says is that one second is exactly 9,192,631,770 cycles of the hyperfine structure transition frequency of caesium-133 atoms.
The hyperfine structure is a small perturbation in the energy levels (or spectrum) of atoms or molecules due to the magnetic dipole-dipole interaction, arrising from the interaction of the nuclear magnetic dipole (nuclear magnetic resonance) with the magnetic field of the electron.
You don't believe in spiritual dimensions Hemetis?
Time travel?
Not like in science fiction, of course not.
However, I said before that we can mentally "travel" through information preserved in memory or pictures or even antics.
As for spiritual dimensions, the definition makes all the difference.
If it is defined as a physical material spacetime zone as mythologically pictured in heaven and hell, then no i do not believe in them. However, we must recognise the metaphysical qualia of time, soul, collective universal consciousness (God), etcetera.
To a living human being, it is the mental states that count.
Depending on the challenge one takes, faith can really do miracles, but not moving a mountain overnight by having a Khardal seed size of faith. The holy books of wisdom are metaphorical and guidelines to the soul.
The letter kills, but the spirit revives.
Dimensions are arrays of absolute quantities, how can you apply that to the spirit! _________________ Hemetis
If you can agree that science have evolved from primitive to mature, then it can get old, and can get sick and can even die.
Science should have never been about "What If" and should always be about "What Is".
Imagine the waste of time and power invested in "What if dragons were real?"
What if cockroaches could fly across galaxies!
What if humans never exited!
What if the moon could decide to leave earth and fall back into the sun!
What if the oceans covered one fifth of the surface of earth only!
What if All continents were only one small island equivalent to Japan Or England!
What if cows eat cats!
What if goblinikerstinks could shmerk beyond velsnoodls!
The list of ridiculousness can go on indefinitely even if the idea was tenable.
In fact, the most dangerous "What If" is when it is a silly attempt by a scientist who diverts great knowledge into an abyss.
There are several definitions for dimensions but this is the formal one:
{Dimension (from Latin "measured out") is, in essence, the number of degrees of freedom available for movement in a space.}
Accordingly, a single physical dimension can have only one degree of freedom with which it increases or decreases numerically and countably.
Those who know better, understand that a dimension cannot be curved, because a curve must occupy more than one dimension as a pure concept, hence it is a definitive contradiction.
We may derive complex second order, third order, fourth order and more, dimensions to give linear and non-linear qualities, but the fundamental dimensions cannot be curved, especially TIME and LENGTH.
This is what draws the border line between empiricism and fiction. _________________ Hemetis
"Gravity doughnut promises time machine: movement into the past gets one step less improbable.
One of the major difficulties of travelling backwards in time has just been solved, according to an Israeli theoretical physicist. And the solution, he says, is doughnut-shaped."
He certainly forgot to specify if the gravitational doughnut was covered with gravitational honey or just smeared with gravitational sugar powder, because it makes a big difference.
This reminds me of an ancient British attempt to build a time machine that was based on gravitational breakfast tea and biscuits in hope to travel to the previous supper, but the experimenter lost consciousness and when he woke up, he found himself half in a deep dish of gravitational soup and the other half in a flat dish of gravitational salad. _________________ Hemetis
He certainly forgot to specify if the gravitational doughnut was covered with gravitational honey or just smeared with gravitational sugar powder, because it makes a big difference.
This reminds me of an ancient British attempt to build a time machine that was based on gravitational breakfast tea and biscuits in hope to travel to the previous supper, but the experimenter lost consciousness and when he woke up, he found himself half in a deep dish of gravitational soup and the other half in a flat dish of gravitational salad.
I think one of the problems with many who interpret Einstein’s theories is they confuse the concept of curved space-time. They think that since space is curving under gravity so too is time.
Hi all,
I have been reading some of your posts and wish to add some points.
To begin with it is believed that time actually travels in both directions ie. forwards and backwards. Einstein has been quoted as saying that the timeline we live in sometimes loops back on itself, thus allowing the time traveller to meet earlier versions of himself. There is a concept known as 'Backward Causation.' In this concept the future happened first and then created the past!! You could alter the past in theory by altering the future in this warped newish idea.
Although we do not have time machines to physically travel through time there are other ideas of ways to do this. These are, however, contorversial!!
One is the belief and inducement of Astral projection, which is where in theory anyway, you expand your consciousness of the present and the room or place in which you are in the present, to that of a past or future place.
A stage further allows you to have a full out of body experience where your astral body seperates from the physical and transcendes (in some cases) time and space allowing you to attempt to influence changes in people by accessing their though processes. Yes this is heavy, but also I think it shouldn't be totally ruled out.
There is a very similiar process known as remote influencing. Remote Influencing is the belief that we are all connected to each other in terms of thoughts almost like an internal online process of communication but unlike our internet experiences this is not restricted (in theory) by time or space. With this you set up a line of communication with another person and have the ability to pass on information which may enhance their decision making skills, alter past actions etc. This is of course not proven and is only influencing situations not forcefully changing things at best.
With the concept of paradoxes stopping folk from altering the past, below is something which I wrote a while back, it's only my own personally opinion but I hope that it is seen as a relevant point of view:
Scenario: In the year 2012, Fred watches a moving tribute about the sinking of the Titanic 100 years ago. He has a time machine in his garage, which he intends to use to reverse this disaster.
Without further ado, he enters his machine and finds a way to warn the ship's captain about the dreaded iceberg. For agrument's sake lets just say that the captain, instead of thinking that Fred is a hysterical fool, actually takes his advice and agrees to take a different route, thus avoiding the iceberg.
Fred being satisfied by the captain's response goes back into his time machine returns to 2012 and finds that things have changed. The Titanic never sunk and was used well into the 1960's. He can, however, still remember a time when the Titanic still sunk. How can this be?
Theory: To begin with the ship sinks. As a result of Fred's intervention the ship then is stopped from sinking, but of course if the ship doesen't sink Fred was nowhere to be seen in 1912, so the ship still sinks.
You may say that I'm stating the obvious here, however, look more closely. What we have is an event which is changing every splitt second. It is a bit like having two lights up and down, every second the light goes from the top light to the bottom light and then from bottom to top etc. (You often see lights like these on the roads near Zebra crossings).
Lets now say that I increase the speed of the change in lights by 100. Suddenly the interval between the change of top to bottom becomes so fast that you can no longer tell which light is on or off. To look at, they are both on half the light is at the top the other half is on the bottom.
This is exactly what will happen if my theory is correct, to the person time travelling. The event dosen't splitt into two like with the parallel theory, because it is constantly changing, you still only have the one reality, however, to an observer both versions of the reality are happening at once! The change between events happens every splitt second, too fast infact to tell that there has been a change attall.
It would be wrong (in my opinion) to suggest that Fred's action of going back to
1912 and preventing the ship from sinking is somehow cancelled out. A person's actions have consequences whether they are in 1912 or 2012 and if Fred could interact with 1912, he should have as much ability to affect things, as the ships captain on board. The event would constantly be changing between the two different outcomes for this very reason and this change would occur every minute fraction of a milli-second. The change wouldn't occur in an instant, because both realities couldn't co exist, it would only seem that way.
This would affect our own reality every splitt milli second as well, as in reality one there have been books and films about the sinking of the Titanic but in the second reality there are obviously none, we alternate between the two every splitt mini-second, however, are minds are only consistent with the present moment of reality!! We couldn't recognise the change between the two, as nobody would have any awarness of there ever having been a change to start with.
Also since we began in reality one rather than two, we are likely to remain in the thought-stream of reality one. This also may explain the reason why we haven't seen any tourists from the future, and why future time travellers haven't been able to change the past (if it can be changed).
This would also allow Fred to stay firmly in reality one whilst he devises his time machine, there is no chance of his future self visiting him before he has designed his machine. However after the event, the two changing realities merge into one. This happens as both new outcomes become the same, namely that the Titanic never sunk! It would mean that we couldn't know this until 2012, when the two events beome the one.
Another reason why I feel that a person would perceive only reality one, is that we may be living ahead of the perceived moment of now. Research carried out by a guy named 'Libet' proved that certain athletes namely 100 metre sprinters, react to the starting gun at the begining of a race before their brain has a chance to hear and respond to the actual noise. This may be a type of telekinesis or precognition, where we react to messages from our future selves or see events before they occur, yet to our senses these things are happening in the here and now. To the sprinters mind they merely reacted to the starting gun, this reaction couldn't have been the reaction to a future memory, but it is.
So maybe this particular type of memory can fill in the gaps for us during those milliseconds when we are in reality two not one, thus giving us the impression that we always perceive only the one reality!!!
I hope that this wasn't too long-winded and I would appreciate any thoughts regarding these points of view. Thank you, IWTTT.
I have been reading sTo begin with it is believed that time actually travels in both directions ie. forwards and backwards. Einstein has been quoted as saying that the timeline we live in sometimes loops back on itself, thus allowing the time traveller to meet earlier versions of himself.
Einstein never said any such thing. Time does not move in both directions. Time is cause and effect our measure of time is counting causes and effects. Time dilation is the lengthening of the path of causes and effects caused by curved space. Space-time does not describe space with a time dimension as many think. When Einstein spoke of space-time he was referring to the degree of space curvature. To say curved space-time is redundant, space-time implies curved space. So since time is not a dimension in the same context as a spatial dimension one can not bend two points in space and return to a past event. Episodic events are not stored in some kind of frozen array that can be accessed from some higher dimension. Once an event has transpired it is gone in its wake is the effect of the event. There is only the now the future is really our misconception of time and so when many speak of relativity's time dilation as traveling into the future they are really talking about slowing cause and effect or time. No one would call freezing someone to be thawed in the future as time travel. We commonly call that slowing the age process and so too is time dilation.
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