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Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:59 am
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| You say you can but would you, pick your friends eye with a sharp pencil? |
I just sharpened my pencil and called a friend. He's on his way over. I'll get back to you after I test your theory. |
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:15 am
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| Well do you consider brain washing a form of abuse? People who have not been abused can be convinced to act out cruelly, especially if they are convinced they are faced with a life threatening issue. |
I am not familiar with any real brain washing that can work against the will. I am only aware of advertisements and suggestives. Brain stimulation by visuals are the strongest, then suggestive ideas follow. If you had it in you, then it would not be against your will but rather along-the-will amplifier. Believe it or not, some scientists went to the extent that they submitted papers with proposals that criminal inclination is genetic. On the other hand, creative people can improvise equal measures for self-defence against life threatening enemy. Video games that contain violence and gore could brain-code a kid to the extent of murder in reflex level. Now you tell me, what sort of kid would feel amused and entertained by such games, or what sort of kid would be attracted to them in the first place before he is self-brain-washed? They find non-implicative vents for their inherent cruelty in such games. While I do not encourage the production of that sort of games, which activates, sharpens and intensify the inherent cruelty, I can not say that such games could be the primary cause for the urge to be cruel.
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:23 am
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| shane wrote: |
| I just sharpened my pencil and called a friend. He's on his way over. I'll get back to you after I test your theory. |
You cannot be serious, but if you were, then you should seek professional help for the certainly abused child.
You could also draw sketches with your sharp pencil, such as a portrait of your friend, but if you were cruel, you will show it in a thousand ways, which are needless of any theory.
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:54 am
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| Frankinstien wrote: |
| Well do you consider brain washing a form of abuse? People who have not been abused can be convinced to act out cruelly, especially if they are convinced they are faced with a life threatening issue. |
I am not familiar with any real brain washing that can work against the will. |
Then you aren't very familiar with hypnostism. All it takes is
the previous conditioning of the individual to authority. The
hypnotist simply takes this over.
Brainwashing was the main technique that Russian
communists used to control the masses. They adapted
Pavlovs work of conditioning and combined it with the
duress and druging of the individual.
If you spoke out they would convince everyone that you
were insane. They would simply make sure that you looked
insane.
You can be made to do things without your knowledge.
Such was the Manchurian candidate.
The Russians believed they could conquer America without
firing a shot;by using these techniques to split the American
family. Whether by Russians or not these techniques have
been being used on America since the 1960's.
Bring down the foundation of the family and you have
succesfully conquered the nation.
Look where we are now.
It was pretty succesful IMHO. |
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:14 am
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 9:01 pm
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I know what hypnosis feels like Hemetis.
You can't tell that you are.
The most educated/intellectual happen to be
the most succeptable to suggestion. |
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Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:58 am
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But you cannot hypnotize people against their will, without injecting chemicals or depriving them, and that is the issue. Then when as such is done, people fall asleep mentally, and if they were not physically sleeping they shall behave like in a dream, but you cannot make a kind man become or behave cruel against his personality or character and forcedly. Therefore it is not an issue of hypnosis but rather character shaping and forming.
All animals share this characteristic, where the most vulnerable period is the learning period of the creature's life.
That is why children abuse is the most critical factor in shaping them into cruel adults.
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Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:13 am
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| But you cannot hypnotize people against their will, . |
You are mistaken Hemetis. Prior conditioning can be comandeered.
You know what hypnotized people do when asked why they
did the stupid things that they were made to do?
They make an excuse.
The excuse is immutable evidence that you have been
acted through by a will other than your own. After all
if it really was your will why would you need an excuse?
Hypnotism can be made permanent. |
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